[O NobbysNads O]

Well ?

Brett

[Dman51]

To me it's very arcade based. I dont think the hardcore MotoGP followers is a big enough group to keep it so realistic. I prefer the graphics and realism of 07 and 08 as I think most of us do but apparently Capcom is looking to sell more games as opposed less to the more loyal followers of the series. I enjoyed the demo but mainly for the fact it's new. I think monumental picked up well on knowing we wanted more in depth game modes, DLC etc. I praise them for listening to us and taking the time to hear us out but I think they took it too far with the whole arcade thing. The graphics arn't bad but lose the yellowish hue, faded edges, and clutter and I think that alone will be a step in the right direction. Most everyone on here hated 08 but I think it had promise if monumental would keep the same platform and just build onto it.

[Cowthing]

Its as realistic as a cross dresser. It looks good, and don't get the surprise until its toooo late.

[thelogger]

Cowthing, on 08 March 2010 - 08:32 PM, said:

Its as realistic as a cross dresser. It looks good, and don't get the surprise until its toooo late.

Although I haven't ridden a GP race bike I do have experience of road bikes, compared to them & compared to what I see when I watch Moto Gp on Telly 09/10 is about as realistic as Avatar.

This post has been edited by thelogger: 08 March 2010 - 09:36 PM

[ROCKGOD01]

The bikes don't track very well, they float through turns like a jet ski or a boat would turn as it feels like a rudder is on the back of the bike rather than weight transference.

[O NobbysNads O]

LOL Cow I like it.....Ladyboys eh.

I think its about as realistic as Gordon Brown is genuine. Need i say more !!!

Nobby

[Bank of Dank]

I think this all depends to be honest. First off, you cannot judge a game based off a demo. We have no idea what kind of settings can be tweaked and how they will make the bike feel afterwards. The topic should include Demo in the title as this is a bit off-base since very few of us have played the full game, and we've heard the point of view of the two from this site who have, if I'm not mistaken though both enjoyed what they played. The demo is not what they played.

That being said if I was to base realism from demo to demo, I find the game to be a fresh but realistic view on racing. If I were to compare it to the 07 demo or 06 demo or whatever climax demo I choose, I would find this demo to be more realistic. If I were to compare it to 08's demo, I would find 08 to be more realistic. This is a middle ground between the two of them.

The tuck for one, maybe its slightly exaggerated, tbh I've never ridden a GP class bike so I have little to base it on, but I do find the idea of the tuck-in to be very realistic, whether they took the idea too far I'm not sure.

I do however feel like I'm going to hurl every time I read or hear someone saying that the Climax versions of the game were realistic.

This post has been edited by Bank of Dank: 08 March 2010 - 09:58 PM

[O NobbysNads O]

Dank I agree with you with regards to the title, it was an honest mistake. Whether or not the game turns out to be good, which i don't believe it will they should have put more effort in, and demo should be just as good as the final product. Their sales rely on a good demo and I for one will not be buying based on what Ive played. There is absolutely no realism that I can relate to based on personal experience and what Ive seen on TV and on track. The graphics are crap take a look at sbk x, thats how it should be done. If I wanted to play this sort of game I would go to an arcade somewhere and pay a quid or two for the experience......saving £28 in the process.

[Cowthing]

I was under the impression that demo's were put out to showcase a production; to give the potential market a "Taster" of what is to be released. You know just like the film industry. If thats pinnacle of what they have to offer, I aint paying them for it. If thats all they could be bothered to push out after 2 years they aint taking the money out of my pocket. I wouldn't know how to explain the transition from feeling to an algorithm but I'm sure any production team worth there salt would know how, should they wish to invest a little more rather that looking at maximising their return.

[HeY jOe]

I'm a "Realist" they're all games, every one of 'em, just as well considering how many times I've fell off!

[Bank of Dank]

Very true Joe and what matters most really is that its fun, which for a racing title means it works online extremely well, or even perfect.

[HeY jOe]

Bank of Dank, on 08 March 2010 - 11:27 PM, said:

Very true Joe and what matters most really is that its fun, which for a racing title means it works online extremely well, or even perfect.

One reason why I've not yet fully sure, ie there's stuff I do like and stuff I don't like about the demo, maybe we'll find it's a refreshing change once we get a full grid ready to race.

[XxxTJ34xxX]

It is as realistic / unrealistic as any game out there. There will never be a true sim on any bike or game it's impossible unless you want to spend a cool Million buying a real simulator. All games have differences good and bad points but it holds its own with any of them.

[WALKEN]

XxxTJ34xxX, on 09 March 2010 - 11:26 AM, said:

It is as realistic / unrealistic as any game out there. There will never be a true sim on any bike or game it's impossible unless you want to spend a cool Million buying a real simulator. All games have differences good and bad points but it holds its own with any of them.

TJ, have you played SBK08?

Gp09/10 doesn't even come close to the depth SBK08 has as well as pick up and play ease of use.. Gp09/10 is like a goofy MotoGP and that's fine if there are people who are swallowing it, but keep in mind that this is a trend in development/programing that is better suited to games like Grid/Need for Speed/Burn out etc... NOT MOTOGP!

Seriously, this is MotoGP were talking about! I won't argue that Gp-3-07 were unrealistic but one thing they got that this pile doesn't is feed back, tire meets tarmac!

Gp09/10 is like playing a poorly set-up guitar with high action and ultra heavy gauge strings. Its not that I can't play it, its why would I? Not to mention the guitar has goofy stickers all over it....B$!!!

[maVr1c]

We all know it's not realistic. the arcade feel is there bug time.
I'm dissapointed cause us hardcore gamers been at this for a long time.

[Mush xx]

Right guys that's enough, completely trashing the game and the developers does not help anyone. If you want them to listen to you and put in the things you believe make a good MotoGP game, then perhaps you should give them and the game a bit of respect? The ball is in their court not ours, without them there will be no MotoGP game.

Any more comments which totally dis-respect the developers or are deliberately out to trash their game will be either deleted or topic locked, these kind of posts do not help the direction of the game at all.

P.S a few posts have been deleted from this thread.

[ROCKGOD01]

Mush xx, on 09 March 2010 - 02:26 PM, said:

Right guys that's enough, completely trashing the game and the developers does not help anyone. If you want them to listen to you and put in the things you believe make a good MotoGP game, then perhaps you should give them and the game a bit of respect? The ball is in their court not ours, without them there will be no MotoGP game.

Any more comments which totally dis-respect the developers or are deliberately out to trash their game will be either deleted or topic locked, these kind of posts do not help the direction of the game at all.

P.S a few posts have been deleted from this thread.

I haven't seen any disrespect or anything that could be construed as such. I just think that the people with the money are very disappointed. Why should we praise the company for a bad game? They asked for the comments. The game is trash so it can't be trashed by us cause it just isn't right. Why would you want to defend them especially since we on this site have been very objective with this game as much as possible. We all want a good game the fact is that it just isn't.

[HeY jOe]

I reckon they're big enough to take stuff on the "chin" Mush .

When someone posts a rather "derogatory" remark aimed at the developers "personally" then I just take that as kinda uneducated and ignore the comment, no doubt the developers do much the same, not worth bothering with.

Not worth stooping to that level.

[Mush xx]

ROCKGOD01, on 09 March 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:

I haven't seen any disrespect or anything that could be construed as such.

You can't see them because they have now been deleted. I completely understand the game may not be everyone's cup of tea, but please try and make posts which at least help the developers improve their game, perhaps not this one coming out but maybe the next one.

All I'm saying is that if you wish to be able to speak to the developers and give your feedback then think about what you are posting.

[TJP]

As I've said on the Capcom-Unity forum, MotoGP '09/'10 reminds me a lot of Codemasters Grid (add in Dirt 1 & 2 too). Very relaxed physics with some simulation elements. Grid was tuned to be fun, looked great and sold well.

MotoGP '09/'10 is fun, at least I think the demo is, once I got over the shock of being 16 seconds faster than Lorenzo around Mugello. MotoGP looks quite nice and the sound, well it's rather disappointing to be honest.

I cannot deny I'd like something closer to "real" but Monumental and Capcom have made a game that isn't fully grounded in reality but it is fun to play and the fun element is the key to a games success.

Cheers.