[ROCKGOD01]

So we all have read now that Capcom cites the lack of sales of GP on the xbox. Well I think they are full of it, I would even venture to say it is a lie. For some reason it just sounds to fishy to me and they are doing this for some other reason. SO I offer the challenge. Post em if you can find it, I am sure one of you guys have an idea of where to get them. I don't think Capcom is going to be getting resigned for the future for this title and are doing it out of spite and frnakly could care less. Capcom, prove to me I am wrong. It is easy to just make a blanket statement like they did but offer no proof of this claim. So I say here is the chance to come clean. I doubt they will though for the simple reason that they are not being honest with us. All this over a game. LOL.

[Mush xx]

The only one I know of is http://www.vgchartz....=motogp%2009/10 and that says the other way round, plus I don't think it's very accurate anyway.

[I MarleyMan I]

I saw this over on the Capcom US forums, I don't know where the numbers were from...but I also find it hard to believe that Playstation Numbers were higher than XBOX


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It looks like MotoGP 08 Sale for Xbox 360 in NA were 111K units; where as PS3 Sales were 60K. MotoGP 09/10 were 30K for PS3 in North America; where as Xbox 360 sold 40k. "


http://www.capcom-un...rica_Say_Capcom

[Mechanical R]

I've said it for awhile now Rockgod, but Capcom just dont really know what they're doing with this franchise. They're much more interested in thier in-house projects, and to be quite honest. Why they picked up the GP licence is beyond me, because as I say, they havent got a clue what they're doing with it. Big shame. Very big shame.

[ROCKGOD01]

Mush xx, on 09 March 2011 - 12:20 AM, said:

The only one I know of is http://www.vgchartz....=motogp%2009/10 and that says the other way round, plus I don't think it's very accurate anyway.

Thats cool thanks Mushy! Yeah I figured as much. I would LOOOOOVE to hear the figures from Capcom themselves. Just a shame really. Capcom kills motogp. That should be a headline.

[I MarleyMan I]

Found this also via XBLA doing a google search

Check out Spacey's post here http://www.xboxlivea...cussion-so-far/

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In fact MGP09/10 sold a lot more copies (about 91.000 copies more) then SBKx as can be seen in the sales figures below:

MotoGP 09/10 sales:

(XBOX) Worldwide total: 109.809
(PS3) Worldwide total:158.910
http://gamrreview.vg...15/motogp-0910/
http://gamrreview.vg...16/motogp-0910/

TOTAL SOLD COPIES: 268.719
I wouldn’t call that many sales of a motorcycling racing game a total failure!

SBKx sales:

(XBOX) Worldwide total: 67.086
(PS3) Worldwide total: 109.787
http://gamrreview.vg...d-championship/
http://gamrreview.vg...d-championship/

TOTAL SOLD COPIES: 176.873
And yes, these figures are up-to-date, and yes SBKx was only recently released in the US, but the market in the US for these type of games are no match for the sales in Europe as can be seen in the graphic-charts clicking on the links above.

so the monetary difference in sales was around 2 million USD, (50,000 copies x $40 USD per unit= $2,000,000)

This post has been edited by I MarleyMan I: 09 March 2011 - 01:29 AM

[swamdog]

My guess is if you looked at THQ's numbers they'd be much higher than Capcoms. Lets face it, while GP08 was a decent game as far as handling went, the online was horrible. You couldn't have a championship per say, couldn't have setups for every track, etc. Say whay you want about THQ's Extreme bikes, but I'd much rather race those on 18 new tracks than race a 125 or 250 on the GP tracks. The Moto2 bikes are another story and I was really looking forward to those. It's not the US's fault that Capcom took over a franchise that didn't need much fixing and ruined it. This reminds me of the AMA Superbike series. I miss the days of getting online after work and racing for 4-5 hours every day 7 days a week. That's what ticks me off.

This post has been edited by swamdog: 09 March 2011 - 03:10 AM

[ROCKGOD01]

I MarleyMan I, on 09 March 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

Found this also via XBLA doing a google search

Check out Spacey's post here http://www.xboxlivea...cussion-so-far/

Quote

In fact MGP09/10 sold a lot more copies (about 91.000 copies more) then SBKx as can be seen in the sales figures below:

MotoGP 09/10 sales:

(XBOX) Worldwide total: 109.809
(PS3) Worldwide total:158.910
http://gamrreview.vg...15/motogp-0910/
http://gamrreview.vg...16/motogp-0910/

TOTAL SOLD COPIES: 268.719
I wouldn’t call that many sales of a motorcycling racing game a total failure!

SBKx sales:

(XBOX) Worldwide total: 67.086
(PS3) Worldwide total: 109.787
http://gamrreview.vg...d-championship/
http://gamrreview.vg...d-championship/

TOTAL SOLD COPIES: 176.873
And yes, these figures are up-to-date, and yes SBKx was only recently released in the US, but the market in the US for these type of games are no match for the sales in Europe as can be seen in the graphic-charts clicking on the links above.

so the monetary difference in sales was around 2 million USD, (50,000 copies x $40 USD per unit= $2,000,000)

ok great! Now look at the volume of sales the US brought in that they are thumbing their noses at! Capcom had killed of the series with bad games then holds America hostage with their inability to produce a good game. Shame on capcom for being a delinquent game company. This also goes to prove how weak capcom is that they don't produce the game for the US. Now it starts.

[Jingle]

Interesting thoughts...

It seems a little over the top. No one from the PC community seem to go ballistic because of a lack of PC versions for 2009/10 and now 10/11... You always have the opportunity to play the game on the Playstation3 as it will be released in the US... Why is it Capcoms fault? I know its nice to race with your friends but you can always make new friends. Sign of the times fellas! Get over it.

Microsoft is ditching niche titles slowly but surely...

[swamdog]

Jingle, on 09 March 2011 - 03:27 AM, said:

Interesting thoughts...

It seems a little over the top. No one from the PC community seem to go ballistic because of a lack of PC versions for 2009/10 and now 10/11... You always have the opportunity to play the game on the Playstation3 as it will be released in the US... Why is it Capcoms fault? I know its nice to race with your friends but you can always make new friends. Sign of the times fellas! Get over it.

Microsoft is ditching niche titles slowly but surely...

The PC community are mostly playing on hi end rigs that most of us couldn't or wouldn't spend that kind of money on. A console is a lot cheaper than a gaming PC. I'd like to have a dedicated rig for car games as the PC community has arguably the best in that regard. I could buy a PS3 but why should I have to. The online is weak compared to the Xbox and I have a blu-ray player.

[Jingle]

I just meant there are options outside of your norm oppose to PC gamers who have lost 3 years of MotoGP versions and the Xbox community is freaking out over 1..

Here is your choices- Buy a Ps3 and MotoGP 10/11 or don't. After all isn't it really about the game not the platform?

In all honestly, when you compare a game like MotoGP to Black ops its a pee on.. Its a minority/niche and its better suited for companies like Black Bean/Milestone. I honestly think Capcom had great intentions and were a little to quick to change hands and now its a wash.

PS- in all fairness I understand the frustration, been there over and over..

[Mush xx]

Jingle

Spoiler

(or should I say Walken),

what is your gamertag? your posts sound very familiar

The point is no one should have to buy/change the platform they are playing on especially when the Xbox community have had MotoGP games since 2001/2002 and an Xbox 360 version will be available in Europe.

The majority posting here want to play on Xbox Live with their friends not on PSN if the latter was the case then there would be no problem.

[swamdog]

You didn't miss much with 09/10 in my opinion. When Capcom totally changed the handling from 08 it was supposed to bring in new buyers with a more arcade riding style. My point back then was it's not COD, your never gonna pull big numbers with a GP game. They should have made 10/11 last year and we wouldn't be discussing this. They finally decide to go the other direction with a more sim style that a lot of us wanted and they limit it's exposure. Heck most of my friends list tried 08 and gave up on Capcom. They wouldn't come back unless there was a solid effort which 10/11 looks to be. I guess we'll never know.

[Jingle]

"The point is no one should have to buy/change the platform they are playing on especially when the Xbox community have had MotoGP games since 2001/2002 and an Xbox 360 version will be available in Europe."


Good point! But same can be applied to PC as well.. We're all gamers right? So when a niche titles is pulled from a platform be it any it hurts the genre. In the long run its all politics..

GP500 was released in 1999 on PC and the THQ series there after starting from MotoGP URT/ til Capcom took over and GP08 was the last PC version. See my point? (twiddle's thumbs)

I guess my captivation reading here is everyone's mutiny towards Capcom, kind of uncalled for wouldn't you say?

[swamdog]

I wouldn't. You get almost all the good games for PC except this one and we're still not sure about how good it is.

[Mush xx]

Yes, but this version was never announced to be on PC, an Xbox 360 version was/is, so your point is a bit offtopic.

[Jingle]

swamdog, on 09 March 2011 - 05:15 AM, said:

You didn't miss much with 09/10 in my opinion. When Capcom totally changed the handling from 08 it was supposed to bring in new buyers with a more arcade riding style. My point back then was it's not COD, your never gonna pull big numbers with a GP game. They should have made 10/11 last year and we wouldn't be discussing this. They finally decide to go the other direction with a more sim style that a lot of us wanted and they limit it's exposure. Heck most of my friends list tried 08 and gave up on Capcom. They wouldn't come back unless there was a solid effort which 10/11 looks to be. I guess we'll never know.

Yeah its unfortunate. No MotoGP is like being in a weird limbo.

note- Outside of my personal opinion about the 10/11 demo I can see how some would be satisfied within this community, after all its all about the circle.

[Jingle]

Mush xx, on 09 March 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:

Yes, but this version was never announced to be on PC, an Xbox 360 version was/is, so your point is a bit offtopic.

oops sorry. Its true there are 2 versions coming out on March 18th NSTC/Pal PS3/Xbox360, problem is only a PAL version for xbox360 because sales figures were obviously to low here (US) for Capcom to lose anymore money they invested in the Dorna license. The PS3 version is a moot point as its exactly the same, meaning no region locking etc...

This post has been edited by Jingle: 09 March 2011 - 06:08 AM

[UrbanMerc]

I am for one boycotting ALL capcom games from this point on. But, that really isn't saying much since most of their games suck anyway. Resident Evil is the ONLY series worth playing, and I didn't even bother after the original PlayStation series because everything other than 1, 2, 3, and 4 have absolutely sucked. Anyway, this is absolutely unacceptable from any developer. This series started on XBox, and capcom decides to ignore the US XBox audience based on their ridiculous claims in a weak forum response? Talk about unprofessional. What cowards they are! I sincerely hope they lose this license. To say they have mishandled this license from day one would be an understatement. Their clear disrespect of XBox gamers is something than needs to be addressed by Dorna, but I suspect it won't be. This is a shame for us XBox gamers here in the US, as this years version seems to be much improved. I do have a PS3, but will not be buying this game for it. I prefer to play serious racing games on my 360, as when I do play online, the servers tend to be more populated and reliable. I don't even enjoy GT5 on my PS3. The only other racer I play on PS3 is Hot Pursuit. I do have SBK 09, but the PS3 controller just doesn't work for me when it comes to racers. You should be ashamed of yourselves capcom. To show my disgust with them, they are on my 'no buy' list til this is rectified, which I am sure it won't be. I think everyone who considers themselves fans of GP should hold out buying to make a strong point as well. I am sure that won't happen though.

[ROCKGOD01]

Jingle, on 09 March 2011 - 05:54 AM, said:

Mush xx, on 09 March 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:

Yes, but this version was never announced to be on PC, an Xbox 360 version was/is, so your point is a bit offtopic.

oops sorry. Its true there are 2 versions coming out on March 18th NSTC/Pal PS3/Xbox360, problem is only a PAL version for xbox360 because sales figures were obviously to low here (US) for Capcom to lose anymore money they invested in the Dorna license. The PS3 version is a moot point as its exactly the same, meaning no region locking etc...

NTSC for what the PS3? Not sure I understand what you are saying.